Bob here with a brief look at the scale change in Age of Sigmar and some thoughts about various scales of models in general. Last week in my rant I touched on how the scale of figures for Age of Sigmar is noticeably different from that of Warhammer Fantasy. For this article I would like to highlight this difference by taking a look at the new Chaos models and their Fantasy equivalents as a clear and definitive example of the change. I chose a Warrior and a Marauder for my comparison.
While the photo is at a slight angle, the difference in the Warriors is very clear. The Age of Sigmar models are simply bigger.
Definitely looks bigger. Certainly not something you would mix together in a unit. Maybe separate units deployed on opposite sides of the battlefield would not be to noticeable. But why would you want to use those old models anyway when the new ones are so full of awesome sauce..
ReplyDeleteYeah definitely no mixing and matching. Separate units would probably work just fine. I am not all that impressed with the Sigmarines, but I do think they did right by the new Chaos models.
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When you say "bigger," do you mean bulkier or taller? Because if you compare a lot of the elements (the boots, the heads, things like that), they are definitely the same size. The difference between the new and old Chaos models is their height. The legs, torsos and arms are stretched out to make the whole thing more proportional. But either way, both old and new are fantastic miniatures!
ReplyDeleteI mean both. It may be difficult to tell (and I apologize for that), but the boots and knees and other parts are larger when you examine them up close. The new models do look more proportional over all though. I do think the new Chaos stuff looks pretty awesome (not all that wild about the Sigmarines).
DeleteI have to agree with JB here. Based on the first few sets of photos, the majority of the items are identical in scale between the two. The new siggy chaos model just has a very dynamic pose, a byproduct of no longer needing to fit in a ranked style setup.
DeleteThe second set looks to be about 5-10% scaled up on the siggy one.
I would encourage you both to take a look at them and do a comparison yourself to double check that. Holding them in my hand and seeing them up close is what lead my to conclude that the AoS models are larger including the Warrior. without taking some measurements with electronic calipers I can't think of another way to be sure other than physical observation.
DeleteI think they can play together just fine. Yes, the newer models are considerably superior in quality of aesthetics which creates a bit of a ragged juxtaposition if incorporating them with older models, but the size isn't an issue. Men in a fighting unit aren't all going to be the same height uniformly (unless they're altered to be, like Space Marines/Sigmarites).
ReplyDeleteI would agree that they can be used together just fine as separate units. To me the size is an issue. Wargaming miniatures in my experience (15mm, 1/72, 25mm, 28mm, etc) rarely if ever portray natural variations in height and build. To me the new models are simply too large to mix and match unless you could have some models in an "in between" size. To each their own however.
DeleteVery useful photos, and the first I have seen of the marauder comparison.
ReplyDeleteI agree, separate units should be fine... which makes sense anyway because of the new poses.
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DeleteI bet you could mix them up. Think about it, if everyone in our gaming group were told to put on helms with identical outfits and then rank up into a unit, we would be all sorts of different sizes and shapes. But we would look like a unit... (sorry, laughing too hard to finish this...LOL)
ReplyDeleteI would totally be fine with mixing them in older units if the sculpts had that kind of variation already built in to them, but they don't. You would have either taller and bulkier guys that are all the same shape and height or smaller guys that are the same shape and height. That to me does not reflect the natural variations in height and build present in adult humans. That is just my personal preference in any case.
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